It's an interesting picture actually- yes, the way they contrasted the image so that all the emphasis and color is used on the DF'd female. She is the only one who really stands out. And they drew her standing with great posture and health -- nearly everyone else in the picture is BENT OVER or "crumpled up" somehow-- slouching, bent, or bowed down (all their heavy loads?) -- and the way the DF'd person is looking at them, head up, with a sad look yes, but not bowed down and cowering or scurrying away from the meeting with a shamed, hound dog, tail between legs demeanour. Very very interesting picture actually. Love your thoughts on the black and white aspect too.
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Disfellowshipping Image
by naazira inthis photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.
why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.
just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.
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What was your eye opening moment?
by WasOnceBlind inif you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.
i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.
i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.
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Muddy Waters
I had a few moments of doubt over the years, but submerged/suppressed them:
- why did Jehovah create Mosquitos if he so opposed to the eating of blood..?
- how could the angelic trumpet blasts from heaven, from book of Revelations, really be said to be resolutions passed at certain conventions in the 1920's? If they are so important and supposed to have the amazing impact they did, why do we not even talk about these resolutions or pronouncements, why are they forgotten?
- how is it possibly okay to take BLOOD FRACTIONS??? We constantly told that the person faithful in what is least is faithful in what is much..... And blood was this holy thing, the most sacred representation of life, and you couldn't even store your own blood, yet it's okay to take fractions made up from a whole bunch of other people's blood, and which is also stored??????
- but the kicker, the final thing which made me finally see this was all a crock of shit, was their publication, MY BOOK OF BIBLE STORIES, which I was going to give to my little grandkids. But then I looked at it as if through looking through their sweet little eyes -- and I thought, What kind of people could put out such a frightening book for little children, such dark, terrifying pictures!! So scary and so much hurt and blood... Who could put out and approve such a book for innocent little eyes?? Then I realized it was the governing body, a group of men who, for the most part, didn't even have children of their own! Once I questioned this, I saw that the GB were just making things up as they go, there was no Holy Spirit directing the publication of this malicious, evil book!
- which led me to read CoC, and ISoCF, and that was it.
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A letter to Mr. Morris
by diana netherton indear mr. morris,.
i am writing this letter to request that you have an immediate meeting with jehovah regarding the tight pants, spanx (i think you mean spandex) issues.
it it clear from your pants rant that jehovah has focused his attention away from the billions of people currently suffering on the planet to address this specific issue.. today i observed a group of witnesses in my neighborhood.
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Muddy Waters
omg, tight pants, colored socks.... I can't keep it all straight in my mind. If I wore colored pants and tight socks, would that be okay? Or would that be pushing it? Would Jehovah forgive me, or what if this should happen to a person who is dyslexic? Could they be granted a special dispensation?
And what about tight shirts for men? So far nothing has been mentioned about this, and I'm sure the brothers would really appreciate some direction about this too. If tight shirts are okay (at least until there is new light about this) then maybe some brothers might want to start working out or something, and then who knows how far this could go....
After all, Remember when it was a big deal when brothers started wearing COLORED SHIRTS on the platform? In our area, the brothers went from white shirts to BLUE shirts! *gasp* I know right!?!?!? Shocking stuff. There were many elders meetings about it, and then finally someone decided it was okay after all.
Phew. So that was a close one! But thankfully we can be assured that the brothers taking the lead would never behave anything like the Pharisees, making up silly rules on such things as these!
So! :) Are we not pleased to receive the guidance from the only seven men on earth today whom Jehovah is using to be his earthly representatives.... Yes, they alone have the wisdom from above which can help guide us and protect us from these terrible and subtle spiritual dangers, by especially arranging a special, worldwide assembly day and days to disseminate these powerful, life-saving truths to mankind, but especially toward his own chosen people on earth today, who become fellow light-bearers and share these truths with others who might not ever know these things otherwise.
With so so many things going on in the world today, it is good to focus on these more important things. And taking careful note. Yes, we do well to emulate these seven men on earth, these humble brothers of Christ Jesus, who take such a powerful lead over their flock of 8 million people around the earth today. Good thing these are humble, spiritual men, as otherwise they might overstep or go beyond what is written....
*bwhahaha!*
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Just Want To Be Heard
by dubstepped ini've been lurking here for a while now, and i guess you could call me a fader.
i don't have hate in my heart for the organization that i spent most of my life in, but i have had an awakening.
luckily, so has my wife, and that way i don't feel so alone.
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Muddy Waters
I missed this post too the first time around... Such a beautiful poem, it expresses so perfectly everything wrong with the WT and the angst and cognitive dissonance it produces.
Welcome and thank you for sharing that. May your journey be blessed (by whatever forces or energies exist that may coordinate or randomly create fortunate occurrences... Ha, can you tell I have no idea what to believe in any more!)
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Are Jehovah’s Witnesses losing the War on Apostates
by Watchtower-Free infound this.
http://jwalumni.org/2015/06/08/who-are-jehovahs-witnesses-september-watchtower/.
by misha anouk on 8. june 2015 in news
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Are Jehovah’s Witnesses losing the War on Apostates
by Watchtower-Free infound this.
http://jwalumni.org/2015/06/08/who-are-jehovahs-witnesses-september-watchtower/.
by misha anouk on 8. june 2015 in news
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Are Jehovah’s Witnesses losing the War on Apostates
by Watchtower-Free infound this.
http://jwalumni.org/2015/06/08/who-are-jehovahs-witnesses-september-watchtower/.
by misha anouk on 8. june 2015 in news
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Muddy Waters
Wifi bandit - wow. Thank you for posting that!!
Just gobsmacked, like you, PunkOfNice!
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"STICK WITH WHAT **WE** HAVE AUTHORIZED...AND YOU'LL BE SAFE"
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My eyes popped out at that! Totally gobsmacked!
He didn't say, stick with what Jehovah says, or stick with what the bible says, he said, (like MOSES and the getting water out of rock thing -- "... Must I get water from this rock?") -- "Stick with what WE have authorized"!!!!!!!!
We...!!! -- As in, We, the GOVERNING BODY -- who are making ourselves masters over your faith and who are (yeah, right) "fellow servants" (though I don't really think anyone can possibly believe that any more!) --
WE!! - as in, "Do not put your faith in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom there is no salvation..." (Psalms 146:3,4) -- yet stick with what we have authorized!! --
We!! -- as in the first-letters always capitalized now -- the Governing Body -- when "we" don't even capitalize Jehovah's personal pronouns (he, him, his) !!!!! so as to not draw undo attention to little words (that would actually help elevate their God) but might take away from the precious text in the WT --
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This just keeps getting better and better. How can people NOT WAKE UP!!??!!
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The JOYS of being an EX-JW
by nicolaou inadd to the list and let's see the weekend out on a positive note!
1. sunday mornings.
alarm not set, cuddles with the mrs, tunes in the bedroom, coffee, bacon, another lazy coffee in the garden .
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Yes, it is good to taste the world -- life!! -- and see that it is good!
It is good to see and know that there are so many wonderful, good, kind people of the WORLD that is now all opened up and I don't have to avoid people or refuse their invitations. They can be my friends .
I can read all books that I want, see any movie I wish, involve myself in anything I choose. And funny enough, that actually makes me feel MORE RESPONSIBLE and accountable because I finally feel connected to everything again. We are all in this together, we are all on our journey through life, working & trying to get by, to be with our families and be good people... (Yes, there are idiots and psychos out there, but I feel they are in the minority of people as a whole, most people are hard working and honest.)
My time is more valuable to me, life is a commodity of great & precious value, not something to be set aside while I wait for a dream to come true (paradise! living forever!)
When you suddenly DON'T have all the answers, it makes you feel more humble, less judgmental. You feel like you have rejoined the human race, you feel compassionate toward people again. You don't look at people through the WT lens -- which makes all non-JW people evil, spiritually dangerous, misled by Satan, and out to shipwreck your faith...
Yes, you feel more loving and in tune with humanity. You also become less interested in people's personal lives and things which are none of your concern or business!! No need to (covertly) snoop through their books or videos to see if your "friends" are wholesome association! Because WT policies and dogma practically turn JWs into SPIES on each other! Now I would never presume to be so rude!! I shake my head at my JW self - what an arrogant self- righteous bitch I was! And never even knew it.
I respect my friends' privacy and their right to be whoever they want to be. So many things are none of my damn business, and this feels good. JWs are so intrusive!
Oh I'm sure there are many more things, but this will do for now! :)
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Irreligious- Bill Maher
by purrpurr ini just watched this film on netflix.
if you haven't seen it its worth watching just for the ways he demolishes the religious advocates he interviews.. the most worrying things i saw in it were the us senator who says that having a high iq isn't a criteria for being senator and also all the muslims he interviews who despite claiming to have read the quran also claim that islam is a religion of peace..
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Brokeback.... Cool... The thoughts in the virst video are quite interesting. And now I finally also know the correct way to pronounce "Jung."!! *blush*
dont have time for the 2nd video but it sounds very psychological and deep and crazy? maybe? Lol
thank you for posting that :)
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simon, why do the first words I type not want to automatically capitalize after hitting "Return"? (See above examples which I have not corrected... I am on iPad if that makes a difference....
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Irreligious- Bill Maher
by purrpurr ini just watched this film on netflix.
if you haven't seen it its worth watching just for the ways he demolishes the religious advocates he interviews.. the most worrying things i saw in it were the us senator who says that having a high iq isn't a criteria for being senator and also all the muslims he interviews who despite claiming to have read the quran also claim that islam is a religion of peace..
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Muddy Waters
Thank you for posting that video. I was fascinated, watched the whole thing and ABSOLUTELY AGREE with all Bill Maher's comments at the end.
"For people to live, religion must die!" I love how he says "... Isn't it more humbling to be in doubt, when you do not know all the answers...?"
Faith (blind, stupid belief) keeps a person trapped in their only mindset of being right, which then makes them arrogant, deluded and dangerous. It is Terrifying to behold.
I shake my head at myself for having been just like some of those people in the video....